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		sdq_pete
 
 
  Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 119 Location: Rotterdam, NL
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: VH 8 Sept 08 | 
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				Quicky - couldn't find an X, but a W-wing did it. Curious what others found.
 
 
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		andras
 
 
  Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 56 Location: Mid Wales
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject:  | 
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				My wife found an xy, but I solved it with no advanced techniques as all. In fact I told her that it must have been a mistake to classify it as a VH when it should have been marked Easy.
 
 
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		arkietech
 
 
  Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 1834 Location: Northwest Arkansas USA
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: VH 8 Sept 08 | 
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				 	  | sdq_pete wrote: | 	 		  Curious what others found.
 
 
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 	  | Code: | 	 		   *-----------*
 
 |...|79.|.43|
 
 |...|...|.15|
 
 |...|.23|...|
 
 |---+---+---|
 
 |..1|65.|.9.|
 
 |..8|4.9|7..|
 
 |.5.|.72|6..|
 
 |---+---+---|
 
 |...|21.|...|
 
 |34.|...|...|
 
 |61.|.87|...|
 
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I needed an xy-wing | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
  Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I also used a xy-wing with the pivot in b4. 
 
 
This was another easy, one-stepper. It would be nice if the VH puzzles were more involved.
 
 
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		cgordon
 
 
  Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 769 Location: ontario, canada
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Fast going up to the <379> xy wing - which took me a while to locate, because I'm xy-wing challenged.  Don't believe it can be done without a VH step.
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		sdq_pete
 
 
  Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 119 Location: Rotterdam, NL
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Just to clarify, then:
 
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| 5  28   6   | 7 9 1 | 28 4  3  |
 
| 79 2379 379 | 8 4 6 | 29 1  5  |
 
| 1  89   4   | 5 2 3 | 89 67 67 |
 
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| 47 37   1   | 6 5 8 | 34 9  2  |
 
| 2  6    8   | 4 3 9 | 7  5  1  |
 
| 49 5    39  | 1 7 2 | 6  38 48 |
 
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| 8  79   579 | 2 1 4 | 35 36 69 |
 
| 3  4    2   | 9 6 5 | 1  78 78 |
 
| 6  1    59  | 3 8 7 | 45 2  49 |
 
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Play this puzzle online
 
 
The XY indeed should have been pretty clear. The W-wing was based on the 79's in Blocks 1 and 7 and the 7's in Block 4.
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I was playing around to see how many different moves I could find. The 79 W-Wing didn't get me very far, but the M-Wing on 49 in boxes 49 made it a one-stepper.
 
 
Also, to preclude the DP 28-29-89 in rows 123, columns 27, r2c2 must be 3 or 7. One of them led to an invalid solution and the other one solved the puzzle, but with less elegance. | 
			 
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		Wendy W
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I kind of figured it would be pretty easy when I filled in boxes 2, 5, and 8 immediately! | 
			 
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