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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| This should work with any Vanhegan puzzle. 
 Select the HTML version of the puzzle and then scan the HTML source, you'll find a line like this near the end:
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | saveState( "clues", "-6---9----9524--86--85-691-8-9---62--3-----9--41---7-5-871-52--45--2816----9---5-" ); 
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 nataraj should be able to update his formatter so you can copy & paste the clues.
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		| ttt 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | storm_norm wrote: |  	  | the easiest way I know how to export the Vangegan puzzles is via Sudocue sudocue finds the current daily puzzles posted on vangegan's site
 
 and you can access them from sudocue's "file" menu
 - OPEN WWW
 -playr.co.uk
 - then pick your difficulty level.
 
 
   
 hopefully that was helpful.
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 Wow, I didn't know this before... Thank you very much!
 
 ttt
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | daj95376 wrote: |  	  | This should work with any Vanhegan puzzle. 
 Select the HTML version of the puzzle and then scan the HTML source, you'll find a line like this near the end:
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | saveState( "clues", "-6---9----9524--86--85-691-8-9---62--3-----9--41---7-5-871-52--45--2816----9---5-" ); 
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 nataraj should be able to update his formatter so you can copy & paste the clues.
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 That is a very simple and useful way to get at the data of those Vanhegans. Good idea, thanks, Danny!
 
 I updated my program at nataraj.0catch.com - it should accept that source line now.
 
 
 Nataraj
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		| Pat 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | nataraj wrote: |  	  | I've found a way to import puzzles from Menneske---The clues are separated by tabs
 
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 not today
 
 each cell ( whether space or clue )
 is followed by one space ( no tabs )
 
 -- making 18-character lines
 
 at least, that's what i get from Internet Explorer 8
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Pat wrote: |  	  |  	  | nataraj wrote: |  	  | I've found a way to import puzzles from Menneske---The clues are separated by tabs
 
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 not today
 
 each cell ( whether space or clue )
 is followed by one space ( no tabs )
 
 -- making 18-character lines
 
 at least, that's what i get from Internet Explorer 8
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 When I copy the table to my editor, there are tabs present ... and one other non-graphic character. I had my editor convert the latter character to a period. Here's an example.
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | ..   ..   8    7    ..   3    5    ..   . ..   ..   5    ..   2    ..   1    ..   .
 3    ..   ..   1    ..   5    ..   ..   6
 7    ..   3    ..   1    ..   6    ..   9
 ..   2    ..   ..   ..   ..   ..   1    .
 5    ..   1    ..   3    ..   7    ..   2
 1    ..   ..   2    ..   8    ..   ..   3
 ..   ..   4    ..   7    ..   9    ..   .
 ..   ..   6    9    ..   4    2    ..   .
 
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 The tab characters are converted to spaces when I copy from my editor to the [ code ] field.
 
 Regards, Danny
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		| Pat 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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yes, i found a way to do it in 2 stages --
 
 
 paste into Excel
 then copy from Excel and
 paste this into Nataraj's tool
 ( Excel provides the tabs )
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | daj95376 wrote: |  	  | This should work with any Vanhegan puzzle. 
 Select the HTML version of the puzzle and then scan the HTML source, you'll find a line like this near the end:
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | saveState( "clues", "-6---9----9524--86--85-691-8-9---62--3-----9--41---7-5-871-52--45--2816----9---5-" ); 
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 nataraj should be able to update his formatter so you can copy & paste the clues.
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 Danny, I clicked on the HTML version but don't know what to do next. I have no idea of what "scan the HTML source" means or how I'd do it.
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		| Pat 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: re: puzzles from Gaby Vanhegan |   |  
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				|  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | I clicked on the HTML version but don't know what to do next -- I have no idea of what "scan the HTML source" means | 
 
 menu -- View -- Source
now, find line saying saveState etc
copy that entire line, and paste it into Nataraj's tool
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Doesn't work for me. Does this work with Firefox? I click View and there's nothing that says Source. Don't worry, it's not a big deal. Thanks. |  | 
	
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| In Firefox, use ctrl+U to see the HTML page source. 
 It will open a separate window. After you've copied the puzzle information to the clipboard, close this window to return to the originating Firefox window.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks, that did it. I was right-clicking on the print-ready puzzle and clicking the Page Source there. I got a similar window but couldn't find the puzzle string in that window. |  | 
	
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | keith wrote: |  	  | Nataraj, 
 Did you ever solve the VanHegan puzzle format?  I can see what it is, but it is not 9 rows of 9 digits each.
 
 Anyone,
 
 Can you export a text version of a VanHegan puzzle to another solver?
 
 Keith
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 For the VanHegan puzzles at
 http://www.playr.co.uk/sudoku/index.php
 
 Display a puzzle.  Go to (in Mozilla Firefox) "tools ... web developer ... page source".
 
 Scroll down.  You will find an 81-character string for the puzzle in a couple of places.  Copy that string and paste it into Nataraj' puzzle formatter.
 
 Click "Format" etc.
 
 Keith
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		| Pat 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:29 am    Post subject: HSF (Helmut's Sudoku Formatter) |   |  
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the old tool at
 nataraj.0catch.com/fmtsudoku.htmhas been replaced by (announced at t=6910)
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