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		| Ema Nymton 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Oh Great, A Solution Of 3 Feb 10 VH.  Not Got 2 Feb Hard |   |  
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 I Haven't figured out the solution to 2 Feb's Hard Puzzle.
 
 Ema
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		| kragzy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I agree with you Ema, yesterday's H puzzle was very messy. I found that a couple of box-line eliminations were needed quite early in the piece, starting with Col 3 if I recall. 
 Post your grid if your still stuck - we're here to help.
 
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		| Ema Nymton 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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 | 3   567  5679  | 27 267  4   | 25679 8    1     |
 | 568 2    45679 | 3  1    678 | 45679 4569 4579  |
 | 68  1    467   | 9  2678 5   | 23467 346  47    |
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 | 4   9    1     | 27 2578 278 | 5678  56   3     |
 | 2   35   358   | 6  5789 1   | 45789 459  45789 |
 | 7   56   568   | 4  589  3   | 5689  1    2     |
 +----------------+-------------+------------------+
 | 1   3456 2356  | 8  246  9   | 345   7    45    |
 | 56  4567*567   | 1  3    67  | 4589  2    4589  |
 | 9   8    237   | 5  247  27  | 1     34   6     |
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 Draw/Play gives a hint that r8c2 is 4.  Why?
 
 Ema
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:02 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Draw/Play gives a hint that r8c2 is 4. Why? | 
 Take a very close look at box 9.
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:34 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Actually, Ema, take a look at R8. 
 Bigger hint:
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Where can 8 be?  Where can 9 be?  Then, where can 4 be? | 
 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:50 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Actually, Ema, take a look at R8. | 
 Six of one and a half-dozen of the other?
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Ema Nymton wrote: |  	  |  	  | Code: |  	  | +----------------+-------------+------------------+ | 3   567  5679  | 27 267  4   | 25679 8    1     |
 | 568 2    45679 | 3  1    678 | 45679 4569 4579  |
 | 68  1    467   | 9  2678 5   | 23467 346  47    |
 +----------------+-------------+------------------+
 | 4   9    1     | 27 2578 278 | 5678  56   3     |
 | 2   35   358   | 6  5789 1   | 45789 459  45789 |
 | 7   56   568   | 4  589  3   | 5689  1    2     |
 +----------------+-------------+------------------+
 | 1   3456 2356  | 8  246  9   | 345   7    45    |
 | 56  4567 567   | 1  3    67  | 4589  2    4589  |
 | 9   8    237   | 5  247  27  | 1     34   6     |
 +----------------+-------------+------------------+
 
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 Draw/Play gives a hint that r8c2 is 4.  Why?
 
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 To answer your question, there is a <567> Naked Triple in r8c136 that results in r8c2=4 ... and the eliminations r8c79<>5.
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