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		kuskey
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:41 am    Post subject: Jan 9 VH | 
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				Both of these are 1-steppers:
 
 
  Type 1 UR using 45s in r68c13 making r8c1<>45
 
 
  w-wing using 26s in c23 with strong link 2 in c4 making r2c2 and r5c3<>6 | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:10 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Also:
 
 
Skyscraper on 2 in rows 35
 
 
XY-Wing (782, pivot r5c9), flightless with transport, r3c5<>2 | 
			 
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		cgordon
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I used two Type 4 URs for 76 and 45. | 
			 
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		Ema Nymton
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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Basic steps arrive at:
 
 
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+------------+--------------+----------+
 
| 3   4   7  | 9    268 68* | 1   5 28 |
 
| 8   256 26 | 2457 1   47  | 3   9 27 |
 
| 1   25  9  | 3    25  78  | 78  6 4  |
 
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| 7   26  1  | 28   4   9   | 68  3 5  |
 
| 9   3   26 | 1    28  5   | 678 4 78 |
 
| 45  8   45 | 67   67  3   | 2   1 9  |
 
+------------+--------------+----------+
 
| 2   9   3  | 57   57  1   | 4   8 6  |
 
| 456 7   45 | 468  3   468 | 9   2 1  |
 
| 46  1   8  | 46   9   2   | 5   7 3  |
 
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If r1c5 is '8' then r5c9 must be '8'.  If r1c9 is '8' than r5c5 must be '8'.
 
 
R1c6 and r5c7 cannot be '8'.  R1c6 must be '6'.
 
 
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		cgordon
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Ema:  Not sure from your logic why R1c6 cannot initially be considered an '8' - but in any event this seems to be a “what if” or “trial and error”solution as opposed to a “technique” (like wings, URs, ERs, colouring, etc.).  I guess you could argue that “trail and error” is also a  technique but this kind of solution is rarely offered on this Forum.
 
 
Cheers, Craig | 
			 
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		kuskey
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Jan 9 VH | 
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				| Ema; simply take it for what it is, an x-wing on 8 in r15c59, eliminating 8 at r1c6 and r5c7. | 
			 
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		Ema Nymton
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | cgordon wrote: | 	 		  Ema:  Not sure from your logic why R1c6 cannot initially be considered an '8' - but in any event this seems to be a “what if” or “trial and error”solution as opposed to a “technique” (like wings, URs, ERs, colouring, etc.).  I guess you could argue that “trail and error” is also a  technique but this kind of solution is rarely offered on this Forum.
 
 
Cheers, Craig | 	  
 
 
The logic is simple.  In column 6 and column 9, '8' can be in only r1 or r5.  If r1c6 were '8',  then r5c5 and r5c9 are the only remaining cells that could be '8'.  
 
 
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		cgordon
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | The logic is simple.  | 	  
 
It was simpler to follow the solution once Kuskey pointed out it is an x-wing. For me that's the whole point of "labelling" techniques. | 
			 
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