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		lg161
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Fri dec 7 hard | 
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				I can do the VH puzzles but I'm stuck here. R7 c5 is supposed to be 9. Why??
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Can you post the grid where you're stuck at? I tried it and got to a point where there was a 123 triple in column 5, thus precluding other 1s in that column. | 
			 
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		lg161
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: Dec 7 h | 
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				I don't know how to post a grid, but in col 5 I have
 
12
 
 7
 
239
 
6
 
13
 
8
 
19
 
5
 
4
 
 
Does that help you? 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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		lg161
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:12 am    Post subject: dec 7 hard | 
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				Is this better?
 
+-----------+---------------+---------------+
 
| 9 12    7  | 5    12       6   |  8    4       3    |
 
| 5 138   4  |138 7        189 | 2    6       19   |
 
| 6 1238 18 | 4   12389 189 | 179 1579 1579 |
 
+-----------+---------------+---------------+
 
| 2 17    5  | 9     6        4   | 17  3       8    |
 
| 8 179  6  | 123 123     5   | 4   179    1279 |
 
| 3 4     19 | 128 128     7   | 6   159    1259 |
 
+-----------+---------------+---------------+
 
| 4 5     89 | 6   189   2      | 3   1789 179  |
 
| 7 6     3   | 18  5     189   | 19  2      4    |
 
| 1 89   2   |  7   4     3       | 5   89     6    |
 
+-----------+---------------+---------------+
 
[/code]
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I aligned the grid.
 
 
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| 9 12    7  | 5   12    6   | 8   4    3    |
 
| 5 138   4  | 138 7     189 | 2   6    19   |
 
| 6 1238  18 | 4   12389 189 | 179 1579 1579 |
 
+------------+---------------+---------------+
 
| 2 17    5  | 9   6     4   | 17  3    8    |
 
| 8 179   6  | 123 123   5   | 4   179  1279 |
 
| 3 4     19 | 128 128   7   | 6   159  1259 |
 
+------------+---------------+---------------+
 
| 4 5     89 | 6   189   2   | 3   1789 179  |
 
| 7 6     3  | 18  5     189 | 19  2    4    |
 
| 1 89    2  | 7   4     3   | 5   89   6    |
 
+------------+---------------+---------------+ | 	  
 
 
I assume you're familiar with Locked Candidates. Let's remove the 8 from r7c5 because the only 8s in row 8 are in that box. Let's remove the 2s from rows 56 column 5 because the only 2s in column 4 are in that box. Now look at row 3. There is a quintuple, 15789, so those numbers are removed from the other cells in that row. After doing those moves I think you'll see why the hint is what it is. Good luck and don't hesitate if you have further questions.
 
 
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		lg161
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:33 pm    Post subject: Dec 7 hard | 
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				| Omg Marty, of course! Give me an xywing any day. Those I can see. I can't thank you enough for your help. | 
			 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject:  | 
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actually it is a 1-move puzzle
 
 
r3 "hidden" duo {2,3} ( or "naked" quintet )
 
solves c5 9  | 
			 
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