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		Glassman
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Stuart puzzle May 25 diabolical — spoiler warning | 
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| 3    48  1578 | 67 2   14  | 49   146 5689 |
 
| 1247 6   157  | 9  147 8   | 3    14  25   |
 
| 124  9   18   | 5  146 3   | 24   7   268  |
 
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| 8    127 3    | 67 167 129 | 5    29  4    |
 
| 9    12  4    | 8  5   12  | 6    3   7    |
 
| 5    27  6    | 3  47  249 | 8    29  1    |
 
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| 146  3   19   | 2  8   7   | 149  5   69   |
 
| 17   5   2    | 4  9   6   | 17   8   3    |
 
| 467  48  789  | 1  3   5   | 2479 46  269  |
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
I'm really stuck on this.   The hint is to eliminate the 6 at r1c4, but I can't see how.
 
 
Help
 
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Glassman,
 
 
At the risk of irritating you, the Type 3 UR in R46C68 says R5C6 is <2>.
 
 
Otherwise, an XY-wing 18-48-14 takes out <1> from R1C3 an R3C5.
 
 
Then, there is another XY-wing, and an X-wing ...
 
 
Neat puzzle!
 
 
But, I do not see how to complete the puzzle without a chain ...
 
 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Glassman,
 
 
I don't see it straight away either  - I do see an XY wing though. | 
			 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Eureka !
 
 
Take the XY Wing that Keith identified - crucially by removing the 1 from r3c5 this reduces that square to a <46> bivalue.
 
 
Now we can eliminate that 6 that is troubling you:
 
 
ALS - Set A is r3c5 <46>. 
 
         Set B is r4c4 <67> and r6c5 <47>
 
 
Locked common is 4.  The 6 in r1c4 can see both 6's in A & B and is thus eliminated.
 
 
NB these cells will also make up an XY chain - pincers at r3c5 and r4c4. | 
			 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| All this having been said there is a way to go to complete the puzzle......... | 
			 
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		Glassman
 
 
  Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 50 Location: England
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				 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Keith — I got side-tracked when I realised that your xy-wing eliminated the 1s at r2c1 and r2c3.    That 57 was too tempting a prize not to be of use.
 
 
Mogulmeister — I prefer yours as a simple xy-wing — I struggle with ALSs.
 
 
Oh, and Keith, thank you for your diplomacy.   However, has Andrew Stuart ever said that all his puzzles have a unique solution?   ... or that he never makes a mistake?   And, if so, would you believe him?
 
 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I put in the ALS because it got rid of your 6 but if x-y chain works as well so be it.
 
 
Personally, I would definitely always trust Andrew Stuart - he worked with and has now succeeded Michael Mepham(RIP) whose Sudoku puzzles always have one solution.
 
 
I think he does excellent work. | 
			 
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