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		farfel
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Need Help ! | 
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				I got this sudoku from a local newspaper.  It's rated as just Hard but I cant seem to get beyond this.  The Draw/Play function on this site says the next move is a 2 in r7c6 but I cant seem to figure out why.   Would anybody like to take a stab at it?  I'm sure it's something not real hard but I just cant see it. Thanks
 
 
7      2         4    |  9       1     6      |    58     58     3
 
38   358      58   |  2       7     4      |    1      9       6
 
6      1         9    |  8       5     3      |    2      4       7
 
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18     67       18  |  3       9     57    |   4     256    25
 
5       4         3   |   67      2     1    |  678    68      9
 
9      67        2    | 567    4     8      | 3567  1356    15 
 
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13     35       6    | 57     8    257     |   9    1235     4
 
4       589     7    |  1      3    259    |  56    256     258
 
2     3589   158   | 4      6     59      | 35      7       158 | 
			 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| In column 8 there is a hidden pair (or naked quad if you prefer) which will remove a 2 in that very column - leaving a 2 in R7 only available in the hint square you suggested. | 
			 
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		farfel
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Tthanks Mogulmeister.   I knew it wasnt too complex an answer.  As Homer Simpson would say, DOH !    I'm sure glad this forum is anonymous.  Maybe I should stick to cryptgrams and crosswords.    | 
			 
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		Mogulmeister
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Not at all - I guess that's one of the reasons this forum exists.  As to that being obvious - it takes a while to spot hidden pairs - which is why I saw the naked quad first ! | 
			 
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		Asellus
 
 
  Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 865 Location: Sonoma County, CA, USA
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Without spotting the hidden pair, there is also a W-Wing on 67 in R5 and R6 that eliminates <7> from R6C4.  It doesn't immediately produce the desired <2>, but it does solve the puzzle. | 
			 
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