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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: daily telegraph 12/28 Reply with quote

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5 . . | . . 9 | . . 8
4 8 . | . . . | . 6 9
. . 6 | . . 7 | 1 . .
------+-------+------
. . . | 5 6 2 | . . .
. . . | . . . | . . .
. . . | 8 3 4 | . . .
------+-------+------
. . 1 | 2 . . | 8 . .
8 . . | . . . | . 7 6
7 . . | 9 . . | . . 4
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
5       1       237     | 6       24      9       | 347     234     8
4       8       237     | 13      12      5       | 37      6       9
239     239     6       | 34      8       7       | 1       2345    235
------------------------+-------------------------+------------------
139     379     48      | 5       6       2       | 34G9    3489    17
236     235     48      | 7       9       1       | 56      48      23
1269    2579    5g9     | 8       3       4       | 56      2-9     17
------------------------+-------------------------+------------------
39      4       1       | 2       7       6       | 8       35G9    35
8       259     5r9     | 14      14      3       | 2R9     7       6
7       6       23      | 9       5       8       | 23      1       4



obvious UR on {4,8} in r4c38 and r5c38

then an x-wing on 3's

then an awesome multicoloring elimination on {9} killing the 9 in r6c8

I marked the coloring in the grid.
the capitol R, G is one coloring chain
the lower r, g is the other chain.

the rule states that if R and r share a column, row or box then the other greens ( G and g ) can eliminate a candidate they both can see.

any thoughts or corrections or simplification would be nice.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any thoughts or corrections or simplification would be nice.

I don't understand. The chain with capital letters is three cells and I thought coloring chains have to be even number of cells. But regardless, it seems like the elimination of the 9 is from a simple skyscraper in columns 3 and 7. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Johan



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an ER for digit <9> in Box 9, the ERI in R8C8 can see one of the strong link* on <9> in C3, which
eliminates <9> in R6C8 and the puzzle succumbs

Code:

+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 5         1        237   | 6          24        9   | 347       234      8     |
| 4         8        237   | 13         12        5   | 37        6        9     |
| 239       239      6     | 34         8         7   | 1         2345     235   |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 139       379      48    | 5          6         2   | 349       3489     17    |
| 236       235      48    | 7          9         1   | 56        48       23    |
| 1269      2579     59*   | 8          3         4   | 56        2-[9]    17    |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
| 39        4        1     | 2          7         6   | 8  er     359      35 er |
| 8         259      59*   | 14         14        3   | 29        7 eri    6     |
| 7         6        23    | 9          5         8   | 23 er     1        4  er |
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+     
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keith



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far as I can see, the UR solves it, with only singles to follow. I was looking at how to do it without the UR, it seems quite difficult.

By the way, there is also a Type 6 UR on <37> in R12C37. It takes out <3> in R1C3.

Keith
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aha, an ER is what I was actually looking at. and I was so "into" the puzzle I didn't even notice that the UR solves it. I was looking for other stuff. geez, get a life norm
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Johan



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed something else to solve the puzzle with one move, when R3C4=3, it creates a [37] DP in R12C37, which means that R3C4=4
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