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		kragzy
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Feb 6 | 
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				Back to relatively easy VH. One regulation XY wing and its done.
 
 
[edit:  Title changed from Feb 8 to Feb 6 - keith] | 
			 
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		kragzy
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Thanks Keith. Silly me. | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject:  | 
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UR type 1  on {6,7}  in r79c49 does not solve it            | 
			 
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		andras
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Feb 6 | 
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				 	  | kragzy wrote: | 	 		  Back to relatively easy VH. One regulation XY wing and its done.
 
 
[edit:  Title changed from Feb 8 to Feb 6 - keith] | 	  
 
 
Yes indeedy - it flowed very nicely, I thought - not all bitty and awkward.
 
 
John | 
			 
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		Johan
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject:  | 
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				There is at first sight a useless Type 3 UR(I'm not sure about the Type number of this Unique Rectangle, I still can't memorize them) in R78C35*, but taking 
 
 
a closer look at it, this useless UR can become very useful.
 
 
For avoiding the [17] DP(Deadly Pattern) either R7C5=5 or R8C5=8 or both(both is not an option here because it results in a triple <17> pair in Box 5), now 
 
 
by transporting these two digits(5 and 8)we create two pincer cells for digit <8> (A and B), so we can eliminate <8> in R4C2.
 
 
A. R7C5=[5] => R4C6=[5] => R1C6=[1] => R1C2=[8]
 
 
B. R8C5=|8| => R8C6=|1| => R1C6=|5| => R4C6=|8|
 
 
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		nataraj
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | storm_norm wrote: | 	 		  
 
UR type 1  on {6,7}  in r79c49 does not solve it            | 	  
 
 
No, but that was also my first (advanced) step - too obvious to ignore (and it does solve r7c9=6, but not "it")
 
Then xy-wing 18-15-58 solving r4c2. Maybe that alone would have sufficed.
 
 
All in all, very straightforward. | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  No, but that was also my first (advanced) step - too obvious to ignore (and it does solve r7c9=6, but not "it")
 
Then xy-wing 18-15-58 solving r4c2. Maybe that alone would have sufficed.  | 	  
 
 
That noted philosopher, Yogi Berra, said, "if you come to a fork in the road, take it." If you see a rectangle, play it. So I did and later finished the puzzle with the XY-Wing. | 
			 
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		George Woods
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: XY wing in top left hand corners | 
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				| My reaction to this one was that the XY Wing solves it but it starts in Box 1 and is all in the top left part of the puzzle whic is where for me it is easiest to spot! | 
			 
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		DennyOR
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| From storm_norm's position, the (r2c2) 12-28-85-51 (r1c6) xy-chain also solves the puzzle. | 
			 
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