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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: LA Times / Freep - July 11, 2008 |   |  
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				| There is a UR which is of no help. 	  | Code: |  	  | Puzzle: FP071108 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . . . | . 4 9 | . 6 . |
 | . . 4 | . 3 . | . . . |
 | . 5 6 | . . . | . 2 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | 9 . . | 8 7 . | . . . |
 | . . . | 3 . 5 | . . . |
 | 7 . . | . 9 1 | 8 . 5 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 2 . | . . . | 9 4 . |
 | . . . | . . . | 1 . . |
 | . 8 . | 4 1 . | . . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
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		| Earl 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Free July 11 |   |  
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				| But a W-wing unlocks it. 
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		| wapati 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The UR is of no help.  A W-wing solves it as does a 4-cell ALS.  |  | 
	
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| w-wing (56 boxes 7,8; strong link on 5 in r7) or: generalized xy-wing pincers 16,13 connected by (67-73) in row 8
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 2       17      178      | 5       4       9        | 3       6       18       |
 | 18      9       4        | 2       3       6        | 5       78      178      |
 | 3       5       6        | 1       8       7        | 4       2       9        |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 9       3       5        | 8       7       4        | 26      1       26       |
 | 168     16*    -18       | 3       2       5        | 7       9       4        |
 | 7       4       2        | 6       9       1        | 8       3       5        |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 | 156     2       13*      | 7       56      38       | 9       4       368      |
 | 4       67#     37#      | 9       56w     238      | 1       58      2368     |
 | 56w     8       9        | 4       1       23       | 26      57      2367     |
 +--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+
 
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I used the W-wing <18> connected by the strong link on <1> in C2.  Causes a pair <17> in R1. 
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		| Myth Jellies 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | *-----------* |...|.49|.6.|
 |..4|.3.|...|
 |.56|...|.2.|
 |---+---+---|
 |9..|87.|...|
 |...|3.5|...|
 |7..|.91|8.5|
 |---+---+---|
 |.2.|...|94.|
 |...|...|1..|
 |.8.|41.|...|
 *-----------*
 
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 | 2     17    178   | 5     4     9     | 3     6     18    |
 | 18    9     4     | 2     3     6     | 5     78    178   |
 | 3     5     6     | 1     8     7     | 4     2     9     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 9     3     5     | 8     7     4     | 26    1     26    |
 | 168   16    18    | 3     2     5     | 7     9     4     |
 | 7     4     2     | 6     9     1     | 8     3     5     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 156   2     13    | 7     56    38+   | 9     4     38+6  |
 | 4     67    37    | 9     56    238+  | 1     58    238+6 |
 | 56    8     9     | 4     1     23+   | 26    57    23+67 |
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 The 26-UR in r49c79 is not entirely useless.  It will eliminate both the 2 & 6 from r9c9.  Combine that with the 238-MUG in r789c69 which implies that either r9c9 equals 7, or the ALS in r9c67 equals 2&3.  Either way, the MUG/ALS tells you that you can eliminate 2 & 3 as candidates from r9c9.  Combine the MUG/ALS with the UR deduction and it must be true that r9c9 equals 7 which solves the puzzle.
 
 In Eureka notation, the MUG deduction can be written...
 
 (MUG:238#6)r789c69 (read this as six instances of the values 238 are true in these cells)
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 (6)r789c9 - (ALS:6=2&3)r9c67
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 (7)r9c9
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		| wapati 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If you don't mind ALS this is easier. 
 ALS. "#" marks one ALS, "@"  marks the other.
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | .------------------.------------------.------------------. | 2    #17    178  | 5     4     9    | 3     6     18   |
 | 8-1   9     4    | 2     3     6    | 5     78    178  |
 | 3     5     6    | 1     8     7    | 4     2     9    |
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 | 9     3     5    | 8     7     4    | 26    1     26   |
 | 168   16    18   | 3     2     5    | 7     9     4    |
 | 7     4     2    | 6     9     1    | 8     3     5    |
 :------------------+------------------+------------------:
 |@156   2     13   | 7     56    38   | 9     4     368  |
 | 4    @67    37   | 9     56    238  | 1     58    2368 |
 |@56    8     9    | 4     1     23   | 26    57    2367 |
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | wapati wrote: |  	  | If you don't mind ALS this is easier. 
 
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 easier than the w-wing? gimme a break
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		| wapati 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | nataraj wrote: |  	  |  	  | wapati wrote: |  	  | If you don't mind ALS this is easier. 
 
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 easier than the w-wing? gimme a break
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 Easier than Myth Jellies solution,  as interesting as it is!
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ... so, then wouldn't the w-wing be easier than the ALS, as interesting as it is?   
 (grins like the cat that got the cream)
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		| wapati 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | nataraj wrote: |  	  | ... so, then wouldn't the w-wing be easier than the ALS, as interesting as it is?   
 (grins like the cat that got the cream)
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 Yep, that's why I listed the W-wing ahead of ALS in my first post on this topic.
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