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Earl



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: June 20 VH Reply with quote

There are multiple and complex routes, but also a single bullet.


A Solution: xyz-wing (124) elminates the 4 in R5C6 and solves the puzzle.

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crunched



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is after all the basics, according to me.
It is enough for earl's xyz solution.
Earl's xyz is what I used for a solution.


Code:

+-------------+-------------+--------------+
| 8   2    9  | 147 146 5   | 467 1346 136 |
| 147 14   6  | 8   9   3   | 47  5    2   |
| 147 3    5  | 147 146 2   | 9   1468 168 |
+-------------+-------------+--------------+
| 2   169  7  | 3   5   16  | 68  689  4   |
| 3   1469 14 | 124 8   146 | 5   269  7   |
| 5   46   8  | 24  7   9   | 1   236  36  |
+-------------+-------------+--------------+
| 14  5    2  | 6   3   148 | 48  7    9   |
| 9   8    3  | 5   14  7   | 2   146  16  |
| 6   7    14 | 9   2   148 | 3   148  5   |
+-------------+-------------+--------------+

Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
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tlanglet



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A second xyz-wing exists involving some of the same cells.
xyz-wing 146 deletes the 1 in r5c4.

Ted
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Louise56



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could someone explain to me how the xyz wing works? When I did the puzzle I could see that I couldn't have a 4 in r7c1, but that is just trial and error. Thanks.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louise56 wrote:
Could someone explain to me how the xyz wing works? When I did the puzzle I could see that I couldn't have a 4 in r7c1, but that is just trial and error. Thanks.

I'll try. The basic rule is to start with a trivalue cell we'll call XYZ. Then there must be in the same box a cell we'll call XZ. Then the XYZ cell must see a cell in another box we'll call YZ. Any cell that sees all three of XYZ, XZ and YZ cannot contain Z. In this case, the three cells are the 124, 24 and 14 in boxes 4 and 5. R5c6 sees all three and cannot contain a 4.

For more information, just Google XYZ-Wing and you'll find explanations clearer than mine. This technique is an important one for any player to have in his/her arsenal.
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hughwill69



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Louise56 wrote: Reply with quote

Could someone explain to me how the xyz wing works? When I did the puzzle I could see that I couldn't have a 4 in r7c1, but that is just trial and error. Thanks.

Marty R. replied:

For more information, just Google XYZ-Wing and you'll find explanations clearer than mine.


Try this- I found it one of the clearest:
http://www.brainbashers.com/sudokuxyzwing.asp
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Louise56



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank-you for your explanation and the reference. Smile
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Hughwill69, welcome to the forum. Brain Bashers does indeed offer a good explanation.
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