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		Bud
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: AHS-ALS Logic Example | 
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				I learned AHS=ALS logic from Allan Barker.  This is an excellent example of one of these techniques.  The (16)AHS cells are labeled B and the (125) ALS cells are labeled A in the puzzle grid.  Each of these is contolled by a single digit ! in the cell labeled C.  If C<>1 the AHS becomes a locked set 16 and if C=1 the ALS becomes a locked set 25.  In either case 5 cannot be in r4c4.
 
 
AHS-ALS Logic Example  	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
+------------------+-------------------+----------------+
 
| 2578  359  23578 | 12359  6    12359 | 1279  4   1379 |
 
| 27    39   4     | 8      39   12A   | 127   6   5    |
 
| 256   1    2356  | 23459  7    23459 | 29    8   39   |
 
+------------------+-------------------+----------------+
 
| 4     35   1356B | 13-569B 359 13579C| 789   2   789  |
 
| 56    7    9     | 256    8    25A   | 3     1   4    |
 
| 18    2    138   | 13     4    79    | 579   59  6    |
 
+------------------+-------------------+----------------+
 
| 159   6    15    | 34     2    34    | 1589  7   189  |
 
| 3     8    12    | 7      59   6     | 4     59  12   |
 
| 2579  4    257   | 59     1    8     | 6     3   29   |
 
+------------------+-------------------+----------------+ | 	  
 
 
The original puzzle is the 9-26-10 tough at sudoku.com.au. | 
			 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Nice find! An alternate perspective similar to what's done in this forum:
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  ALS(5=21)r52c6 - AHS(1=16)r4c634  =>  r4c4<>5
 
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[Edit: several attempts to properly present information.]
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		ronk
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | daj95376 wrote: | 	 		  Nice find! An alternate perspective similar to what's done in this forum:
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		       A           A               CBB
 
(5=2)r5c6 - (2=1)r2c6 - (1=16)r4c634  =>  r4c4<>5
 
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I don't actually recall seeing almost-hidden-sets in an AIC on this forum. In any case, it would be clearer if the set were identified as hidden, for example ...
 
 
(5=2)r5c6 - (2=1)r2c6 - (1)r4c6 = (hp16)r4c34  =>  r4c4<>5 | 
			 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | ronk wrote: | 	 		  (5=2)r5c6 - (2=1)r2c6 - (1)r4c6 = (hp16)r4c34 => r4c4<>5
 
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Considering the fact that I didn't properly identify the ALS as (5=21)r52c6, then partitioning the AHS term seems appropriate.
 
 
I prefer your notation because it shows that "almost" isn't needed. It's simply an AIC with a hidden pair term. | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | I don't actually recall seeing almost-hidden-sets in an AIC on this forum | 	  
 
 
might want to look a little closer.  I and several others have posted AHS in AIC's in this forum. | 
			 
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		ronk
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:33 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | storm_norm wrote: | 	 		   	  | Quote: | 	 		  | I don't actually recall seeing almost-hidden-sets in an AIC on this forum | 	  
 
might want to look a little closer.  I and several others have posted AHS in AIC's in this forum. | 	  
 
Thanks for the links. | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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