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keith



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:04 am    Post subject: Menneske 5976228 Reply with quote

Code:
Menneske 5976228 SH(14)
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 3 . | . 7 9 | . 5 . |
| . . . | . . 5 | . . . |
| 4 . 8 | . . . | 7 . 9 |
+-------+-------+-------+
| . 2 . | . 5 7 | . 1 . |
| . . 5 | 1 . 4 | 9 . . |
| . . 1 | 9 3 . | 2 . . |
+-------+-------+-------+
| 2 . 7 | . . . | 4 . 1 |
| . . . | 7 . . | . . . |
| . 6 . | 3 9 . | . 2 . |
+-------+-------+-------+

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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think of the NFL's challenge rule?

Code:

+------------+----------+-----------+
| 16   3  26 | 4  7  9  | 18  5  28 |
| 179  17 29 | 68 68 5  | 13  4  23 |
| 4    5  8  | 2  1  3  | 7   6  9  |
+------------+----------+-----------+
| 3689 2  69 | 68 5  7  | 36  1  4  |
| 36   78 5  | 1  2  4  | 9   78 36 |
| 678  4  1  | 9  3  68 | 2   78 5  |
+------------+----------+-----------+
| 2    9  7  | 5  68 68 | 4   3  1  |
| 158  18 3  | 7  4  2  | 568 9  68 |
| 58   6  4  | 3  9  1  | 58  2  7  |
+------------+----------+-----------+

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1) Type 3 UR 58 in boxes 79. A 1 or a 6 kills it. The 1 proves a 6 in r1c1 and with a transport from r8c7 to r5c9, r5c1<>6

2) Eight-cell Bug-Lite on 68 with all three killers leading to a 6 which eliminated a 6 that saw all three, but I didn't pursue it after I couldn't make it a one-stepper
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
 |b16    3     26    | 4     7     9     |a18    5     2-8   |
 | 179   17    29    | 68    68    5     | 13    4     23    |
 | 4     5     8     | 2     1     3     | 7     6     9     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 3689  2     69    | 68    5     7     | 36    1     4     |
 |c36    78    5     | 1     2     4     | 9     78   d36    |
 | 678   4     1     | 9     3     68    | 2     78    5     |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 2     9     7     | 5     68    68    | 4     3     1     |
 | 158   18    3     | 7     4     2     | 56-8  9    e68    |
 | 58    6     4     | 3     9     1     | 5-8   2     7     |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
xy-chain
(8=1)r1c7-(1=6)r1c1-(6=3)r5c1-(3=6)r5c9-(6=8)r8c9 => -8r89c7,r1c9;stte
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keith



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty R. wrote:
What do you think of the NFL's challenge rule?


It's stupid. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a kick in the groin.

After basics:

Code:
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 16   3    26   | 4    7    9    | 18   5    28   |
| 179  17  B29   | 68   68   5    |1-3   4   A23   |
| 4    5    8    | 2    1    3    | 7    6    9    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 3689 2   C69   | 68   5    7    |D36   1    4    |
| 36   78   5    | 1    2    4    | 9    78   36   |
| 678  4    1    | 9    3    68   | 2    78   5    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 2    9    7    | 5    68   68   | 4    3    1    |
| 158  18   3    | 7    4    2    | 568  9    68   |
| 58   6    4    | 3    9    1    | 58   2    7    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+

AD are pincers on 3.

Marty, I am pretty sure someone will call this a wing of some flavor.

Keith
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storm_norm



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agree with keith,
when the game is being decided off the field in some mystery replay booth, and not being decided by the 22 players laying it on the line every week, then we know the game has problems.


oh and I like marty's AUR.


anyways, everyone was complaining about how bad the substitute refs were while the strike was on. This provided a much wanted distraction so the league wouldn't have to answer to some of the other problems. but not so fast. NFL challenge rule front and center.
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
I am pretty sure someone will call this a wing of some flavor.


After checking the replay. It has four strong links and a wing has three.. Very Happy

Looks like an xy-chain.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll change the rule for sure, but unfortunately for Keith, they won't make it retroactive.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing I like about Menneskes of this level is they have may options. Here's how I actually solved it. After basics:
Code:
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 16   3    26   | 4    7    9    | 18   5    28   |
| 179  17   29   | 68   68   5    | 13   4    23   |
| 4    5    8    | 2    1    3    | 7    6    9    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 3689 2    69   |B68   5    7    |#36   1    4    |
| 36  D78   5    | 1    2    4    | 9   E78  #36   |
| 678  4    1    | 9    3   6-8   | 2   F78   5    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+
| 2    9    7    | 5    68   68   | 4    3    1    |
| 158 C18   3    | 7    4    2    | 568  9   A68   |
| 58   6    4    | 3    9    1    | 58   2    7    |
+----------------+----------------+----------------+

There is a Type 4 UR in R89. Also, AB are W-wing pincers on 8. With transport CDEF, it takes out 8 in R6C6.
Code:
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 16  3   26  | 4   7   9   | 18  5   28  |
| 179 17  29  | 6   8   5   | 13  4   23  |
| 4   5   8   | 2   1   3   | 7   6   9   |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 369 2   69  | 8   5   7   | 36  1   4   |
| 36  78  5   | 1   2   4   | 9   78  36  |
| 78  4   1   | 9   3   6   | 2   78  5   |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
| 2   9   7   | 5   6   8   | 4   3   1   |
| 15  18  3   | 7   4   2   | 56  9   68  |
| 58  6   4   | 3   9   1   | 58  2   7   |
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
BUG+2 forms a pseudocell 16 in C1, solving R8C1 as 5.

Keith
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arkietech



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
There is a Type 4 UR in R89. Also, AB are W-wing pincers on 8. With transport CDEF, it takes out 8 in R6C6.

BUG+2 forms a pseudocell 16 in C1, solving R8C1 as 5.


Well done!
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keith



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arkietech wrote:
Well done!


Thanks. I don't think it's that clever, but when solving these puzzles with pencil & paper, interesting things do come up.

Keith
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Luke451



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

keith wrote:
Marty R. wrote:
What do you think of the NFL's challenge rule?


It's stupid. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a kick in the groin.

In the NFL, one can no longer say that someone "deserves a kick in the groin." Correct these days is, someone "deserves a Ndamukong."
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke451 wrote:
keith wrote:
Marty R. wrote:
What do you think of the NFL's challenge rule?


It's stupid. Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves a kick in the groin.

In the NFL, one can no longer say that someone "deserves a kick in the groin." Correct these days is, someone "deserves a Ndamukong."

I should have said, "Anyone who thinks otherwise deserves to get Suh'd."

Keith
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