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roaa



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:16 pm    Post subject: Feb 23 VH Reply with quote

An X-wing on 5 leads to r1c6=5, which solves it.
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Lee



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you made a typo.

r1c6 = 3

after x-wing on 5 in columns 3 and 9.

which solves it.

Code:

+-------------+-----------+-------------+
| 2   4589 59 | 346 1  35 | 7  68  45   |
| 6   457  57 | 2   9  8  | 34 1   345  |
| 1   458  3  | 467 67 57 | 9  68  2    |
+-------------+-----------+-------------+
| 4   1    79 | 379 5  37 | 8  2   6    |
| 359 579  2  | 1   8  6  | 34 457 3479 |
| 359 6    8  | 379 4  2  | 1  57  379  |
+-------------+-----------+-------------+
| 59  59   4  | 67  67 1  | 2  3   8    |
| 8   3    1  | 5   2  9  | 6  47  47   |
| 7   2    6  | 8   3  4  | 5  9   1    |
+-------------+-----------+-------------+
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Rocky Mozell



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did this 3 times using basics only. Can someone point out the error of my ways?

Lee, you can eliminate all the 5's in box 1 column 2 which sets r3c6 to 5 solving the puzzle.
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danw



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did this twice and found it to be solved by basics. I came to this point:

Code:

+------------+-----------+-------------+
| 2   489 59 | 346 1  35 | 7  68  45   |
| 6   47  57 | 2   9  8  | 34 1   345  |
| 1   48  3  | 467 67 57 | 9  68  2    |
+------------+-----------+-------------+
| 4   1   79 | 379 5  37 | 8  2   6    |
| 359 579 2  | 1   8  6  | 34 457 3479 |
| 359 6   8  | 79  4  2  | 1  57  379  |
+------------+-----------+-------------+
| 59  59  4  | 67  67 1  | 2  3   8    |
| 8   3   1  | 5   2  9  | 6  47  47   |
| 7   2   6  | 8   3  4  | 5  9   1    |
+------------+-----------+-------------+


I saw that row 3 only had a 5 in column 6 and the puzzle solved out from there. I may have made the same lucky guess mistake twice but that's what I found.

Dan W
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rmireland



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be basics only.
To check, I used Hint and Grade. After setting about 12 singles, the grade changes from Very Hard to just Hard.
Maybe there is a tedium factor in the grading.
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Marty R.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did this a few times and got some different results, but twice it solved with basics, once with pencil and paper and once using Draw/Play.
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kuskey



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with danw, basics all the way with the key being r3c6=5, which reveals a 467 trip in c4. This ultimately sets r6c4=9, revealing the solution.

I got it right the first try but really screwed up in trying to confirm. The deep weeds swallowed me up and I punted with the T1 UR 67 which yielded a solution, but I can't remember how.

Puzzles with huge numbers of pencil marks give me troubles. At this point I usually break out the trusty old box-line reduction tool and apply it systematically to all rows, columns, and boxes, repeated until I get all the basics.
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