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		Earl
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Oct 7 VH | 
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				Friendly skies on a W-wing (56).
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Oct 7 VH | 
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				 	  | Earl wrote: | 	 		  Friendly skies on a W-wing (56).
 
 
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		nataraj
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject:  | 
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				... or overlapping xy-wings again (568 boxes 4,6)
 
(this time it doesn't matter which one to take, they have the same effect)
 
 
So little of the puzzle left after basics...    | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| A simple kite solved it for me. | 
			 
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		cgordon
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| For me, an ER on <6> using R6 & B7 to remove <6> from R7C6. | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I was also a kite flier.
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I tried it a second time. There was an XY-Wing on 568 which didn't take me too far. I didn't use it but there was a Finned X-Wing on 6 which solved it. | 
			 
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		Clement
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Daily Sudoku: Tue 7-Oct-2008 VH | 
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				| XY-Wing <568> Pivot {5,6}r5c3 eliminating 8 in r6c8 and the puzzle is solved. | 
			 
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		crunched
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Code: | 	 		  
 
+--------------+---------------+------------+
 
| 6   7    2   | 39  349  8    | 5 134  134 |
 
| 5   34   9   | 6   1    2    | 8 7    34  |
 
| 348 1    348 | 35  345  7    | 9 6    2   |
 
+--------------+---------------+------------+
 
| 7   349  345 | 159 8    159  | 6 2    35  |
 
| 2   689  568 | 4   569  3    | 1 58   7   |
 
| 38  368  1   | 7   2    56   | 4 358  9   |
 
+--------------+---------------+------------+
 
| 1   2    346 | 8   3569 569  | 7 459  456 |
 
| 389 5    368 | 139 7    4    | 2 19   16  |
 
| 49  469  7   | 2   569  1569 | 3 1459 8   |
 
+--------------+---------------+------------+
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
An x-wing of 8s in columns 2 and 8 eliminates an 8 in C1,R6;
 
It also takes out an 8 in C3,R5.
 
This results as follows:
 
 
 
 
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+------------+---------------+------------+
 
| 6  7   2   | 39  349  8    | 5 134  134 |
 
| 5  34  9   | 6   1    2    | 8 7    34  |
 
| 48 1   348 | 35  345  7    | 9 6    2   |
 
+------------+---------------+------------+
 
| 7  49  45  | 159 8    159  | 6 2    35  |
 
| 2  689 56  | 4   569  3    | 1 58   7   |
 
| 3  68  1   | 7   2    56   | 4 58   9   |
 
+------------+---------------+------------+
 
| 1  2   346 | 8   3569 569  | 7 459  456 |
 
| 89 5   368 | 139 7    4    | 2 19   16  |
 
| 49 469 7   | 2   569  1569 | 3 1459 8   |
 
+------------+---------------+------------+
 
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Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 
This opens up an xy wing 68-56-58 with 56 as pivot...and the puzzle gets solved. | 
			 
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		nataraj
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | crunched wrote: | 	 		  An x-wing of 8s in columns 2 and 8 eliminates an 8 in C1,R6;
 
It also takes out an 8 in C3,R5.
 
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Alternatively, there are a few things that can still be achieved using more basic means:
 
 
9 in r9c2: in col 1, 9 is confined to r89c1.
 
8 in r6c1,r5c3: 8 in col 2 confined to r56c2.
 
 
This leaves a naked 3 in r6c1, which in turn solves a whole bunch of cells, until we get to this point:
 
 
 
 
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+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+ 
 
| 6       7       2        | 9       4       8        | 5       3       1        | 
 
| 5       3       9        | 6       1       2        | 8       7       4        | 
 
| 48      1       48       | 35      35      7        | 9       6       2        | 
 
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+ 
 
| 7       49      45       | 15      8       159      | 6       2       3        | 
 
| 2       689     56       | 4       569     3        | 1       58      7        | 
 
| 3       68      1        | 7       2       56       | 4       58      9        | 
 
+--------------------------+--------------------------+--------------------------+ 
 
| 1       2       346      | 8       369     69       | 7       49      5        | 
 
| 89      5       38       | 13      7       4        | 2       19      6        | 
 
| 49      46      7        | 2       569     1569     | 3       149     8        | 
 
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		DennyOR
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| And from there the xy-chain 65-51-13-38-84-45-56 also solves it. | 
			 
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