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		Clement
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: April 21 VH | 
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				| XY-Wing 37 38(pivot) 78 eliminates 7 in r7c7 solving the puzzle. | 
			 
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		Earl
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:44 am    Post subject: April 21 VH | 
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				Or fly solo.
 
 
A solution:  38 W-wing
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:40 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Also the XYZ-Wing (478). | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject:  | 
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				  I used an XY 37-8.
 
 
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		arjun
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | keith wrote: | 	 		  :?: I used an XY 37-8.
 
 
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That's what I used. Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing? | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | arjun wrote: | 	 		  | Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing? | 	 
  	  | Code: | 	 		   *--------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 1    7    58   | 3    2    9    | 6    458  48   |
 
 | 4    2    358  | 1    68   56   | 9    7    38   |
 
 | 6    9    358  | 58   7    4    | 2    358  1    |
 
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 
 | 9    5    6    | 2    4    8    | 3    1    7    |
 
 | 38   138  2    | 57   136  57   | 4    68   9    |
 
 | 7    138  4    | 9    136  36   | 5    2    68   |
 
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 
 | 38   4    1    | 6    5    37   | 78   9    2    |
 
 | 2    368  9    | 478  38   1    | 78   346  5    |
 
 | 5    368  7    | 48   9    2    | 1    346  346  |
 
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 	  Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle? | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		   	  | arjun wrote: | 	 		  | Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing? | 	 
  	  | Code: | 	 		   *--------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 1    7    58   | 3    2    9    | 6    458  48   |
 
 | 4    2    358  | 1    68   56   | 9    7    38   |
 
 | 6    9    358  | 58   7    4    | 2    358  1    |
 
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 
 | 9    5    6    | 2    4    8    | 3    1    7    |
 
 | 38   138  2    | 57   136  57   | 4    68   9    |
 
 | 7    138  4    | 9    136  36   | 5    2    68   |
 
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 
 | 38   4    1    | 6    5    37   | 78   9    2    |
 
 | 2    368  9    | 478  38   1    | 78   346  5    |
 
 | 5    368  7    | 48   9    2    | 1    346  346  |
 
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 	  Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle? | 	  
 
38s in boxes 78 connected by 8s in r9. | 
			 
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		arkietech
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R wrote: | 	 		  | 38s in boxes 78 connected by 8s in r9. | 	  
 
Thanks Marty .. They are easy to miss when you have such abundance. | 
			 
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		Kdelle
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		   	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		   	  | arjun wrote: | 	 		  | Could someone post the puzzle after basics so that I can see the W wing? | 	 
  	  | Code: | 	 		   *--------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 1    7    58   | 3    2    9    | 6    458  48   |
 
 | 4    2    358  | 1    68   56   | 9    7    38   |
 
 | 6    9    358  | 58   7    4    | 2    358  1    |
 
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 
 | 9    5    6    | 2    4    8    | 3    1    7    |
 
 | 38   138  2    | 57   136  57   | 4    68   9    |
 
 | 7    138  4    | 9    136  36   | 5    2    68   |
 
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 
 | 38   4    1    | 6    5    37   | 78   9    2    |
 
 | 2    368  9    | 478  38   1    | 78   346  5    |
 
 | 5    368  7    | 48   9    2    | 1    346  346  |
 
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 
 | 	  Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle? | 	  
 
38s in boxes 78 connected by 8s in r9. | 	  
 
 
Didn't see that.....I saw the 8s in C7.
 
My original solution was the XYZ wing.
 
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				There is an interesting UR.  After basics: 	  | Code: | 	 		  +-------------+-------------+-------------+
 
| 1   7   58  | 3   2   9   | 6   458 48  | 
 
| 4   2   358 | 1   68  56  | 9   7   38  | 
 
| 6   9   358 | 58  7   4   | 2   358 1   | 
 
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
 
| 9   5   6   | 2   4   8   | 3   1   7   | 
 
| 38  138 2   | 57 1-36 57  | 4   68  9   | 
 
| 7  1-38 4   | 9   136 36  | 5   2   68  | 
 
+-------------+-------------+-------------+
 
| 38  4   1   | 6   5   37  | 78  9   2   | 
 
| 2   368 9   | 478 38  1   | 78  346 5   | 
 
| 5   368 7   | 48  9   2   | 1   346 346 | 
 
+-------------+-------------+-------------+ | 	  
 
For the 13 UR in R56C25:  Either one of R56C2 is 8 and / or one of R56C5 is 6.  Eliminating 3 in R5C5 and R6C2.  
 
 
Not that it helps.     
 
 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | arkietech wrote: | 	 		  | Lots of goodies here but where is the w-wing that solves the puzzle? | 	  
 
There are plenty of M-Wings and W-Wings from which to choose.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		   crb_-c_-r (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5 = (6-8)r5c8 = (8)r6c9   =>  r2c9<>8
 
 brr_bc_-r (8=3)r8c5 - r7c6 = (3-8)r7c1 = (8)r7c7   =>  r8c7<>8
 
 cbb_-c_-r (3=8)r5c1 - (8=3)r7c1 - r7c6 = (3)r8c5   =>  r5c5<>3
 
 cbc_--_-- (3=8)r5c1 - (8=3)r7c1 - r7c6 = (3)r6c6   =>  r5c5,r6c2<>3
 
 brR_b-_-r (3=8)r8c5 - r9c4 = (8-3)r9c2 = (3)r9c89  =>  r8c8<>3
 
 crC_b-_-r (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5 = (6-8)r5c8 = (8)r13c8  =>  r2c9<>8
 
 
 W-Wing (8=5)r1c3 - r2c3  = r2c6  - (5=8)r3c4  =>  r3c3<>8
 
 W-Wing (8=5)r1c3 - r1c8  = r3c8  - (5=8)r3c4  =>  r3c3<>8
 
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r2c6  = r6c6  - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5  = r5c8  - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r5c5  = r6c56 - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 
 W-Wing (8=6)r2c5 - r56c5 = r6c56 - (6=8)r6c9  =>  r2c9<>8
 
 W-Wing (3=8)r7c1 - r9c2  = r9c4  - (8=3)r8c5  =>  r7c6,r8c2<>3   Marty's
 
 W-Wing (3=8)r7c1 - r7c7  = r8c7  - (8=3)r8c5  =>  r7c6,r8c2<>3   Kdelle's
 
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