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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Free Press June 10, 2011 |   |  
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				| Not yet started.  Requires advanced moves.  	  | Code: |  	  | Puzzle: FP061011 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 4 . | . . . | 7 5 . |
 | . . . | 6 4 . | . . 3 |
 | . . 2 | . . . | . . 6 |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 8 . | . . 1 | . . . |
 | . . 5 | 2 . 6 | . . . |
 | . . . | 5 3 . | . 1 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | 6 . . | . . . | 8 . . |
 | 9 . . | . 5 2 | . . 1 |
 | . 5 8 | . . . | . 7 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 Keith
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
 Joined: 17 Oct 2007
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:01 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Following Keith's advice, I immediately started looking for advanced moves and soon spotted this one......... 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | anp(89=4)b3q38-(4=3)r8c8-r8c2=r3c2-(3=158)r132c1-(1)r2c23=(1-9)r2c7; r2c7<>9=1 | 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
 Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| After an X-Wing (1) I couldn't find any of the usual moves in my limited arsenal. Trying an XY-Chain, I found that r2c2=7 proves r8c2=7; r2c2<>7. |  | 
	
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		| susume 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:35 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| After the X-wing (1) I found a discontinuous nice loop of 1's and 4's that cracks it: 
 r8c8 -4- r9c7 =4= r3c7 =1= r2c7 -1- r2c3 =1= r7c3 =4= r8c3 -4- r8c8 => r8c8<>4
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		| Luke451 
 
 
 Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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 Location: Southern Northern California
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:52 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | susume wrote: |  	  | After the X-wing (1) I found a discontinuous nice loop of 1's and 4's that cracks it: 
 r8c8 -4- r9c7 =4= r3c7 =1= r2c7 -1- r2c3 =1= r7c3 =4= r8c3 -4- r8c8 => r8c8<>4
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 Would it be possible to post your position at this point? I must have completely lost my ability to read nice loop notation.
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		| keith 
 
 
 Joined: 19 Sep 2005
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| After basics:  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ | 138   4     6     | 139   2     389   | 7     5     89    |
 | 58    179   179   | 6     4     58    | 19    2     3     |
 | 1358  139   2     | 1379  1789  35789 | 149   489   6     |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 2347  8     349   | 479   79    1     | 5     6     2479  |
 | 147   19    5     | 2     789   6     | 349   3489  4789  |
 | 247   6     49    | 5     3     4789  | 249   1     24789 |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 6     2     134   | 13479 179   3479  | 8     349   5     |
 | 9     37    347   | 8     5     2     | 6     34    1     |
 | 134   5     8     | 1349  6     349   | 2349  7     249   |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
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 After an X-wing (1) in R19C14:
 Keith 	  | Code: |  	  | +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ | 138   4     6     | 139   2     389   | 7     5     89    |
 | 58    79    17    | 6     4     58    | 19    2     3     |
 | 358   39    2     | 379   1789  35789 | 149   489   6     |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 2347  8     349   | 479   79    1     | 5     6     2479  |
 | 47    1     5     | 2     789   6     | 349   3489  4789  |
 | 247   6     49    | 5     3     4789  | 249   1     24789 |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 | 6     2     134   | 3479  179   3479  | 8     349   5     |
 | 9     37    347   | 8     5     2     | 6     34    1     |
 | 134   5     8     | 1349  6     349   | 2349  7     249   |
 +-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
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		| susume 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Luke451 wrote: |  	  | Would it be possible to post your position at this point? I must have completely lost my ability to read nice loop notation.
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 Using keith's after-basics grid above, I see that the nice loop does not work due to the 4s in r56c7.  As I recall, I had solved r9c9=2, which constrained the 4's in box 6 to be in c9, exposing a strong link on 4 in r39c7.  However I can no longer figure out how I solved r9c9=2.  I suspect it was a late-night clerical error in pencil marks, which renders my nice loop invalid, despite having led to solving the puzzle.
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| There is an X-Wing on <8> that leads to a Naked Quad, but my solver still needed a 5-cell XY-Chain to finish the puzzle. |  | 
	
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		| DonM 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:07 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Luke451 wrote: |  	  |  	  | susume wrote: |  	  | After the X-wing (1) I found a discontinuous nice loop of 1's and 4's that cracks it: 
 r8c8 -4- r9c7 =4= r3c7 =1= r2c7 -1- r2c3 =1= r7c3 =4= r8c3 -4- r8c8 => r8c8<>4
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 Would it be possible to post your position at this point? I must have completely lost my ability to read nice loop notation.
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 Luke, where have you been, my friend?
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		| Luke451 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | DonM wrote: |  	  | Luke, where have you been, my friend? | 
 The prison has yet to be built that can hold me for long.
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